listening to old cassettes we've done. myself using a roland juno, a tr-707 and singing (it didn't matter what i was saying you couldn't understand it anyway), rick musick or was it bobby cole (i forget) on the drumkit and phillip skains -way too much talent to have been limited to the bass however always brought himself to my level, just because we had fun. the good old days are over but damnit we can revel in it's simplicity.